Tuesday, January 26, 2016

Tax Free Exchanges This Week At REI

Most of us who have been involved with real estate for a while have heard of the 1031 Exchange. But most investors I know haven’t taken advantage of it. Effectively using this tax strategy allows you to exchange one regular or vacation rental property for another rental property without having to pay capital gains at the time of the exchange.

House for house, equipment for equipment, truck for truck…. There are several different types of Like Kind Tax Free Exchanges other than the 1031 Exchange.

This week we’re going to have our good friend Robert Young who has done MANY of these tax free exchanges. Robert knows the ins and outs of these exchanges better than anyone I know.

Come on out and learn about this tax strategy that can be used to make a lot of money over the years due to being able to kick the can down the road on the date you have to end up paying these taxes.

Monday, January 25, 2016

Who Shovels Snow? Tenant or Landlord

In Roanoke City who is responsible for shoveling snow? The tenant or the landlord? It is the responsibility of the tenant. Sure you can do it if you want to. But by Roanoke City code it is the occupant of the properties responsibility to clear the sidewalks. If the house is vacant than it's the responsibility of the owner of the property.

Here is the specific code section.

Sec. 30-16. - Removal of snow, ice, sleet and mud from sidewalks.
It shall be the duty of the occupant of every building, house or lot which has a sidewalk or footway of brick, stone, wood, concrete or other permanent material adjoining or touching upon the same, either in the front, in the rear or on either side, to have all snow removed from such sidewalk or footway within three (3) hours after the same shall have ceased falling, unless such snow shall have fallen during the night, in which case it shall be removed by 9:00 the next morning. The same requirements shall exist with respect to ice, sleet or mud on the sidewalks or footways, except that the same, when it cannot be removed without injury to the sidewalk, shall be covered, within the same period of time, with sawdust, ashes or other material which will render it safe for travel. When there is no tenement on such lot or any occupant of any tenement thereon, it shall be the duty of the owner of the lot or tenement to have the snow removed, or the ice removed or covered, or the mud cleaned off from his sidewalk or footway, as above required of occupants of houses.
Each six (6) hours that snow, ice, sleet or mud is allowed to remain in violation of this section shall be considered as a separate offense.
In case there is no occupant of the premises, and the owner or agent cannot be found, the city manager may cause the sidewalk to be cleaned or covered, at the expense of the owner, with a penalty of twenty (20) percent added.
(Code 1956, Tit. XVII, Ch. 2, § 7)
State Law reference— Authority for above section, Code of Virginia, § 15.1-867.

Sunday, January 24, 2016

Interest Owed On Security Deposits

Federal Reserve Board Discount Rate

Security Deposits gain interest if they are held by the landlord for 13 or more months. If a tenant is in your house for 12 months and you give their security deposit back before the 13th month you owe no interest. The law is that you give interest based on 1 Percentage Point Below the rate it was in January of that calendar year. The rate you go by is the Federal Reserve Board Discount Rate.

(January of the calendar year)

2003 - 2.25      Landlord owes 1.25%

2004 - 2.25      Landlord owes 1.25%

2005 - 2.25      Landlord owes 1.25%

2006 - 5.5        Landlord owes 4.5%

2007 - 6.25      Landlord owes 5.25%

2008 - 4.0        Landlord owes 3.0%

2009 - .5          Landlord owes 0%

2010 - .5          Landlord owes 0%

2011 - .75         Landlord owes 0%

2012 - .75         Landlord owes 0%

2013 - .75         Landlord owes 0%

2014 - .75         Landlord owes 0%

2015 - .75         Landlord owes 0%

2016 - 1.0         Landlord owes 0%

Sunday, January 17, 2016

Renting To Ex-Offenders Recently Released From Prison At REI This Week

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This week we have an interesting topic for consideration. Our guest speaker will be Katherine King of TAP. TAP has a program where they help ex-offenders get permanent housing. When they get out of prison they go to a halfway house called the Dorcus Home. During that time, in order to be released from the halfway house they are required to obtain full-time employment and secure a lease on a house or apartment.

If they do not complete those tasks they are sent back to wherever they obtained their charges and run the risk of homelessness, unemployment and falling back into their criminal patterns.

TAP’s program, Training to Work, assists ex-offenders in their reentry back into society as productive citizens through the use of job skills training, education, employment, life skills training and more.

TAP will be coming to our meeting to teach us about what they do for these ex-offenders, show us the benefits to renting to them, and to determine what our individual criteria are for a tenants criminal history.

There are no sex offenders in their program.

So for this meeting there are some questions you should challenge yourself with.

*  If a person committed a crime 10 years ago and has spent the last 9 years paying for that crime they committed, should they be able to get another chance at becoming a productive citizen?

*  Are people capable of changing when given the opportunity to do so?

*  If you are considering a multifamily house to try out with this program, should the house be all ex-offenders? Are you putting your other tenants at risk by renting to ex-offenders?

*  If you have a policy against renting to those who have criminal charges, are there certain charges such as marijuana or white collar crimes that you aren’t as concerned with and would consider as a resident?

My personal policy for my low income properties falls along the lines if they have had an eviction before or not. I have found if someone has had an eviction than the chances are significantly higher that I will be evicting them within a few months. 

I also personally don’t like renting to people that have violent crimes. I don’t like the idea of having to fight and hurt someone in order to defend myself if I have to put them out due to non payment of rent. I have had a few over the years who have thrown their shirt off and wanted to fight when I had to file an unlawful detainer.

I also don’t like crimes with the word “public” in it as they seem to cause lots of drama on the way out. These are crimes with names like “using profanity over the public airwaves” whatever that is, “public drunkenness”, disorderly conduct, etc.

One question I would have for TAP is if they have some sort of program that would make us feel secure about renting to these ex-convicts. A program that would pay their rent if they lose their very new job. Something where there would be some benefits that could outweigh the potential downfalls.

Come on out to our weekly show. This will be an entertaining meeting on an interesting subject. Should people have another chance? Should they be allowed to get past their crime they already paid for? I think they should but I can also understand why someone would not want to do business with them.

See you there!

P.S. - Again I have to remind everyone about dues. It’s real easy to click the link at the top right of this page now and get it paid for this year. This isn’t money going into anyone's pocket. We are all volunteers. If you don’t have it right now you can still come though. We’re not going to put you out. We just want everyone to know it’s that time of year. And we need to work towards getting that squared away for this year. It’s pretty darn cheap. $100. We are lower than most of the REI groups in the country. Mainly because we aren’t paying anyone to operate the group. So, please… go ahead and click the link below and get this years dues paid.

BTW, those of you who haven’t signed up yet, I just put out a great deal. 7 wholesale units in one deal. All 7 units for $150K. That little business brings in $46,000 per year. If the rents were where they should be it would bring in 50K a year. Nice little income.

That deal won’t go out to everyone else until the premium members have had a chance to look it over. And it only will if the premium members don’t take it. There are some nice benefits of being a premium member. And we’re working on several others. Please… sign up in the top right corner of this website now!

Tuesday, January 12, 2016

REI Dues

Click this text link to pay REI dues via PayPal.

This week at REI we have no guest speaker. This will be a moderated group discussion. These are often some of the best meetings. We will talk about various subjects.

I’m not going to get into thinking about various topics at this time because I just spent about 2 hours figuring out how to put a Paypal link on our website and in this email for annual dues.

I figure I’ll just let Andy wing it. LOL just kidding. I will help him wing it.

One of the pieces to the puzzle that keeps our organization running is our dues. Which still isn’t enough to pay anyone anything to run our organization. As I have said before, we are all volunteers. No one gets paid anything as of now. We have been trying to save up some money for a legal fund for our members in case we have any big cases we need to use it on.

We also are saving up to invest in some form of real estate. If we can get enough money together to do flips with it then we can create a machine that will continue, no matter who on the board continues with it. We will also create a machine where people within our group can get paid to physically do the flips. And newbies can learn from watching. A good win win for everyone.

My personal primary objective for REI would be that I would like to see REI get to a point where it can go on without me or any of us volunteers.

I would like to see REI at one point in time hopefully not in the too far future to be able to be self sustaining. To make enough money were I am replaceable. Where any of us are replaceable. And in order to be replaceable it has to be a paid position. There aren’t many people who want to invest the significant amount of time that it takes to put on this show we give to you every week without getting paid to do it. And it would take 1 full time paid person to completely run it effectively.

It would be nice to develop something that one day those of us who are volunteers can walk away from. Something that will keep on going and will continue educating and protecting investors in our area.

So to keep this short and sweet, as I have to get to some paid work, please click the link below if you haven’t paid this years dues yet. We lose about 3% to Paypal with this but we’re thinking making it easier will end up in getting more people to sign up this year. Our bet of reducing our dues last year to $100 worked out fine. We had a few more people sign up.

So we’re rolling the dice again on this Paypal link hoping it will work. Just like in Vegas. Only no free liquor.

Very soon we will be tightening down a little trying to get everyone to pay the yearly dues. You may get asked at the door if you aren’t on our list of who has paid. We have several people who come to the meetings who don’t. And that’s not fair to those who do. The only people we have set up to get in for free are new potential members. They get a month to see if they like it. No one else.

It’s $10 at the door if you aren’t going to sign up for premium membership. That’s our policy for those who just want to go to a meeting once in a great while. However we would prefer that you sign up as a premium member so you can help support the cause.

Please see the link below…

*** If you are paying with a business card or someone else's card that I don’t know, please be sure to leave your name and email address in the note to the seller box when purchasing. I need to know who paid so I can move you over to the 2016 Member list. Also if you are paying for 2 or more people please let me know the 2 or more you paid for.

Click this text link to pay REI dues via PayPal.

Monday, January 4, 2016

Predictions for 2016

This article is long and will require you to put your thinking cap on. It’s real important information though. Especially if you’re using economics to make yourself rich. Or using it to prevent your future demise. Read it when you have a few minutes for some pretty intense mind twisting data that I’m going to lay out for you in the most simple way I can. 

We’re finally here. This is the year I have been waiting for. Or very close to it. It’s time to start making some good money again. Those who prepare themselves for big economic events walk away wealthy. Those who get surprised by them will walk away broke.

The perfect storm is brewing guys and gals and I’m ready for it. I’ve paid for several forecasts over the last couple of years from various economists that all claim to be the best. The one consistent thing that they say is we are on our way to a complete meltdown. Wether it happens at this upcoming recession or the next I’m not sure. Many of them believe it’s right around the corner.

So lets say that it holds of until the next recession. This one or the next one, there are several things that will likely happen during this recession that you can make a lot of money from. Which include another likely housing crisis. I made my first million as a result of our last 2008 housing crisis. And I plan to make several more on the next one. I was just dipping my toes in the water on the last go around. I now know exactly what to do during a housing crisis and I plan to repeat it to a much larger scale.

You may ask why do I say that the perfect storm is coming. Well, let me tell you what I’ve learned from the experts. We are currently converging on several different economic issues that are going to have a dramatic impact on the stock market. The upcoming stock market crash will in turn have an impact on the housing market as there will be many people who will lose all of their wealth in this next crash.

Cyclical patterns happen historically that can be used to predict the future. Roughly every 7 years a recession happens. In 2016 we will be in year 8 since our last recession so we are due for another any time now. An additional factor is 2016 will be a presidential election year. Presidential election years are always hard on the stock market.

To make matters worse, the year 2016 is the year where the first of the baby boomers turn 70. There will be 700,000 baby boomers turning 70 in 2016 and they will be required by law to start spending down their retirement and sell off a portion of their stock. This will continue to compound every year where an additional 700,000 baby boomers turn 70 and have to start selling some of their stock every year. This is expected to have a dramatic negative impact on the stock market.

The millennials were previously expected to hold up the housing market but as it turns out they aren’t buying houses like previous generations. As of now they prefer to rent. Millennials grew up during our housing crisis. Previous generations felt like owning your own house was one of the largest and best investments you would typically make in your lifetime. Millennials don’t think of owning your own house as being such a great investment since they saw their family or friends families lose property from the 2008 crash. It is expected that they will begin purchasing property about 10 years behind the norm.

This very minute you can see signs of a crisis coming. The stock market is having regular massive fluctuations up and down. 

The United States National Debt is now at almost 19 Trillion dollars. That equals over 157,000 worth of debt per taxpayer. It has very quickly reached a point where it is impossible to pay back. The rest of the world still has confidence in the United States. Once they lose confidence in our ability to repay our debt, the dollar will crash. And it will happen very quickly. 

Or currant president has created more debt than all of the previous presidents combined. Mark my words the United States will never pay back the National Debt. We are quickly coming to a point where we won’t even be able to pay the interest on the debt. We will start WWIII the day we tell China that they have been artificially propping up their currency and we don’t owe them that money. We will tell them that we wouldn’t even have that debt if it wasn’t for their currency manipulation. Which technically is true considering the fact that their currency manipulation helped strip the manufacturing jobs out of this country. And it has helped the remaining manufacturing companies who managed to hang on have extreme difficulties worldwide competing with China in the export of their products. Their social tariffs which put fees on our exports entering their country also made it difficult for us to compete since we weren’t playing on a level playing field.

The largest budget items that the US has are Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, Income Security, Federal Pensions, Defense, and Net Interest on Debt. Expect to see major cuts in these areas at the first attempts of balancing the budget. These cuts are going to have to come from everywhere if they make an honest attempt to eliminate the national “debt". Just balancing the budget (balancing the “deficit”) will take some very serious cuts. These cuts if done correctly will lead to rioting in the streets as what happened in Greece when people got their entitlements taken away. We’re going to need cuts to that degree if we seriously are going to pull out of this mess that the politicians created.

Out of those major budget items, one of the first to be whittled away will be Medicare / Medicaid and Social Security. This Obamacare stuff ended up doing the exact opposite as to what was needed when it adds trillions to the national debt in this area. The government is expected to continue to grow the massive federal pension plans. They won’t personally want to get off the gravy train. If anyone is going to be hurt it’s not going to be them. Pension plans that’s crazy anyway. They need to be stopped. And switch to a 401K or something. What business in the country still has pension plans? Not many.

The government is also not expected to do much with national defense as far as more cuts go.  Defense represents roughly 6% of our national debt. Back in the days of Abe Lincoln it represented roughly 5%. And as you know, there really isn’t anything that they can do about the interest on the debt.

So when they start tinkering around with Medicare and Medicaid, do you think they are going to take away elderly health care or will they take it away from the handicapped? Hard choice? They could make one big very well needed cut in this area by simply making every person on disability, reprove their disability every year or two. It is possible for a person to get better. All landlords know the massive scale of disability fraud out there. Reproving disabilities would weed out many of the scammers while those who really need it will be able to keep it.

Social security is a real tough one to take away. Especially since that is your money that you invested. In doing so they will have to admit that the United States government ran the biggest Ponzi scheme in World history. They will have to admit that they spent all of the money and the elderly now will have to stick it out on the street because they won’t be sending their money they use for rent anymore. I don’t see that happening. But it is very possible that they admit what they did and give a cutoff point where they tell everyone if you are under this or that age you will get nothing. They will also develop another plan for those who got robbed from the government and they will make it seem to them that they have some great opportunities to get every penny back with this new method. Do you think any of the congressmen will go to prison for their Ponzi Scheme which essentially robbed every working man and woman in this country? Will any of them get prosecuted for the crime of Treason they committed which is punishable by death?

We are in a Government Bubble right now. A government bubble AND a Credit Bubble. All bubbles eventually pop. The question is NOT “will it happen” but rather, “when will it happen”.  And when it does happen will you need to be able to protect yourself with weapons and ammunition? Will you need to feed yourself with food you stored to get through a bad time and a run on the grocery store shelves? Will you need to power your house with a generator because the electrical grid gets shut down or no one can afford to pay for it due to a limited supply of cash? Does that generator need to be a solar generator due to a run on oil and or gasoline? Do you actually think that that can’t happen in the United States even though it happens all over the World? Did you know there is almost always several countries at any given point in time that are in a major crisis such as this?

Have a look at this link to visually comprehend the magnitude of this issue.


Currently the dollar is doing very well against other currencies. It is being propped up since it’s the worlds reserve currency. For those of you who don’t know what that means, let me give you an example. If Poland was going to do business with Australia they would exchange US Dollars, not their own currencies. There have been major efforts at ending it’s world reserve currency status by both China and Russia. They have made deals with each other and other countries that they will trade in a note currency. Not ours.

The rest of the world is in a recession right now. China and Russia are having financial issues as well as Europe. As other countries currency loses value, the US remains the one 1st world safe haven for the wealthy in those countries to put their money and hedge it against the losses that are happening where they live.

The next country predicted to fall after Europe will be Japan. It’s ratio of gross government debt to their entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is 240%. After Japan it will be our turn in the United States. When we crash we will cause a global depression.  Our ratio of government debt to GDP is roughly 104%.

This isn’t just an issue of government debt. Our entire economy revolves around people using credit to purchase products both for their personal lives and business lives. As I said before, the things that are propping up the United States are the dollar being the worlds reserve currency and the fact that other countries are currently doing much worse than we are that have to have somewhere safe to shelter their money.

Lets go over some of the projections from the leading cyclical economists.

The Kondratieff Wave is one of the most prominent of all economic theories. So much so that the Russian economist, Nikolai Kondratiev who saw this pattern was eventually executed because of it. Those Russians don’t like someone accurately predicting the future I guess. Especially when it’s bad.

The Kondratieff Wave essentially says that there is roughly a 60 year cycle of economics that happens over and over with ALL countries. It is thought of as having 4 distinct “seasons". Each season lasts several years. The United States is right now in the start of the “winter season” which lasts 20 years. Here is what happens with a countries economy during these seasons.

Winter: excess capacity worked off by massive debt repudiation, commodity deflation & economic depression. A “trough” war breaks psychology of doom. (we’re here right now. And will likely be moving into a depression phase at our next crash. We have been experiencing deflation recently. And our trough war I suspect will be WWIII or a major event with the global terrorists. The last time we were here was the 10 or so year phase of the Great Depression which ended in 1939 and the 10 years following it through WWII the trough war of those days.)
Spring phase: a new factor of production, good economic times after getting through the hard winter phase, rising inflation. (this is what we get to look forward to they suspect after 2020. We were here last in the booming economy of the 1950’s. The US was just officially becoming the Worlds strongest military power. A magnificent post war economy and the beginning of the Baby Boom. The GDP more than DOUBLED in the 50’s.)
Summer: hubristic “peak” war followed by societal doubts and double digit inflation. (Remember the Jimmy Carter days? And Vietnam in the 1970’s)
Autumn: the financial fix of (Carter) inflation leads to a credit boom which crates a false plateau of prosperity (Regan - Clinton) that ends in a speculative bubble (Bush & Obama) (we just got out of the Autumn phase a couple years ago and into the Winter phase. They say roughly 2013 was the end of Autumn.)

This is not the only economic cycle that suggests that we are headed towards an “economic depression".

Cyclical economist Harry Dent primarily focuses his theories on demographics. The fact that our population is aging rapidly. He expects the worst economic trends due to demographics to initially hit between 2014 and 2019.  And it will last until the year 2023. He feels it will be exceptionally hard because “the every day consumer never came out of the last recession”. Dent says that Japan is still in their “coma” from their recession 20 years ago because they never let their debt bubble deleverage (Pop). And the only way we will not follow in Japan’s footsteps is if we stop printing money. The Federal Reserve is artificially propping up our economy and creating the same issue with the 4.5 trillion dollars they have printed to add to the system. If they keep printing money we will go into a stagflation type scenario where the economy will stay extremely lackluster for many years to come. The only way to really fix the problem is for us to bottom out hard and heavy by deleveraging. We then will pick back up relatively quickly and get back into a good growth economy.

Regarding Dent’s theory pertaining to economic issues surrounding an aging population, how does that make you feel about the whole amnesty issue now? These are mostly young illegals coming into our country.

These cycles have been studied for years. There is even an English economist named William Stanley Jevons who found that the sunspots are on the same cycle as the Words economic cycles. Yes, that’s right. When the sun’s spots die down the World’s economy dies down. When they ramp up the economy ramps up. I’m sure this is coincidence and they are simply on the same cyclical pattern but who knows; a full moon is known to effect peoples personalities. And female friends or co workers menstrual cycles often end up coinciding with each other in roughly the same dates each month. Strange things happen that we can’t explain.

Here are several other leading cyclical economists and their predictions. Some of which we are already a little past due.

Charles Nenner Research (source)
Stocks should peak in mid-2013 and fall until about 2020. Similarly, bonds should peak in the summer of 2013 and fall thereafter for 20 years. He bases his conclusions entirely on cycle research. He expects the Dow to fall to around 5,000 by 2018 – 2020.

Kress Cycles (Clif Droke) (source)
The major 120 year cycle plus all minor cycles trend down into late 2014. The stock market should decline hard into late 2014.

Elliott Wave (Robert Prechter) (source)
He believes that the stock market has peaked and has entered a generational bear-market. He anticipates a crash low in the market around 2016 – 2017.

Market Energy Waves (source)
He sees a 36 year cycle in stock markets that is peaking in mid-2013 and will cycle down for 2013 – 2016. “… the controlling energy wave is scheduled to flip back to negative on July 19 of this year.” Equity markets should drop 25 – 50%.

Armstrong Economics (source)
His economic confidence model projects a peak in confidence in August 2013, a bottom in September 2014, and another peak in October 2015. The decline into January 2020 should be severe. He expects a world-wide crash and contraction in economies from 2015 – 2020. Watch the movie The Forecaster. Amazing guy this Martin Armstrong is. He got locked up by Goldman Sachs for many years for refusing to give a judge his economic forecast which they found to be unbelievably accurate.

Cycles per Charles Hugh Smith (source)
He discusses four long-term cycles that bottom in the 2010 – 2020 period. They are: Credit expansion/contraction cycle, Price inflation/wage cycle, Generational cycle, and Peak oil extraction cycle.

So my question to you is. Does history repeat itself? After reading this information, do you feel like we very well could be close to the perfect storm? Are we in a situation where we could have a potential major crisis? A crisis that is of the magnitude of a complete government and credit bubble meltdown? And what are you going to do about it? Are you prepared for what will happen? Do you even know what will happen? It is expected to be at minimum as worse as if not much worse than The Great Depression.

In future emails I will write a little bit about how things could look. What types of things are expected to happen. In my research I’m trying to determine what exactly will happen specifically to landlords and with tenants. Based on what happened in other countries who have crashed as a result of debt related issues.

REI Self Defense For Sissy’s, I Think Not!

Across the country landlords get attacked and killed on a regular basis. Many of these landlords are killed when their tenant gets angry at them. This is not something that you just have to be wary of in a big city. Several landlords have been killed while on the job in Roanoke. Some of which were killed by their tenants.

One of a few examples of this was the murder of landlord Harold Markum who was beat to death by his tenants Meghan and Justin Musser. He was found dead with a tear streaming out of his eye.


The first step in protecting yourself from getting attacked or killed is avoiding situations where you have a higher likelihood of something happening to you in the first place.

Some tips that I have learned over the years that keep me from having to hurt someone while protecting myself include:

* Never physically pick up rent. Have a drop off location such as a UPS Store that will collect your rent for you. Have a mailing address that is not your home where tenants can mail their rent. Everywhere you write your address, including court documents, should list the P.O. Box or UPS Box address, never your home address. Including but not limited to the address you have your tax bills sent to that shows up on the GIS. Look at your home as your bunker. The only people know where it is, is your friends.

* Be nice to your tenants at all points in time. Yes I realize that there are PITA tenants that can really get under your skin. Keep your cool and keep it professional always. If they cuss you out on the phone simply tell them you aren’t in business to listen to this garbage, good bye, and hang up on them. They will likely blow your phone up for a while with continuous calls. Don’t answer them. Give them a cooling off period before talking to them again. That is if you decide that you are going to talk to them again. The next time you see them may be in court.

* Have a contractor do all repairs / maintenance when there are tenants living in the house. Also have your contractor meet the deputy for your evictions / set-outs. Your tenants aren’t mad at your contractor. They are mad at you for putting them out. Avoid confrontations by avoiding the drama.

There are times where you have done all of the right things and you still are in a situation are in danger. That’s where our guest speakers come into play.

There are a couple schools of thought regarding how you protect yourself when your life is in danger. The Roanoke City Police department suggests that you run away. However in many cases running away isn’t going to help you. Such as the case with the elderly landlord, Mr. Markum. Sure you can try to run but who’s to say that you are faster than your attacker. And do you really want to die without at least trying to give up a fight. Die while on the run? Not me!

Our special guest speaker will be Tim Habla of Counter Response Tactical. Tim is an expert at standing and fighting. And Tim is coming to our group to give us some tips that don’t include sticking your tail between your legs and running away.

I tried to find an embed code to embed this video but it doesn’t appear that they have one. Have a look at the link below. Our guest speaker is around 2:35 of the clip.


By The Way, if I was an attacker and the person I was attacking was using the push away “Get Back” tactic that the Roanoke Police were teaching in the video, I’m going to hurt them…bad. You could not stop or even slow me down doing that. That will only make me mad.

And if you’re going to wait it out for the police to show up, they will be there after you have already been assaulted or killed. Not during or before the attack. Police get there AFTER the crime has already happened. Only on a very rare occasion do they get there during the crime.

You NEED to be able to protect yourself with a weapon if necessary so you don’t have to worry about your safety. That is unless you are in an area where weapons are not allowed such as the Virginia Tech campus which is referred to in the video. I guess it’s different in areas like that where mass murders pick to do their killing since they know no weapons are allowed. The anti gunners logic though says you’re safe there since weapons are banned.

Come on out to the meeting this week. It’s going to be a fun one!

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